Loyalty isnβt going anywhere β but it is being rewritten.
Not because points donβt work. They do.
But thereβs room for so much more.
ethos founder and CEO Matias Marquez was clear in our recent Canada Now podcast conversation: the ROI is real β loyalty members often spend at least 30% more on average, return more often, and become more valuable customers over time.
The most disciplined consumer brands in the world track this obsessively β Starbucks, Sephora, and others regularly cite loyalty metrics as core business drivers.
The shift happening now isnβt about whether loyalty works.
Itβs about what it can be.
In 2026, loyalty isnβt just a marketing program.
Itβs infrastructure.
Itβs community.
Itβs participation.
And increasingly, itβs a growth engine.
Oh β and itβs not just for the big guys anymore.
What weβre building is about democratizing loyaltyβ¦ helping small and independent shops create programs that rival legacy brands.
π€ Loyalty Isnβt a Tactic β Itβs a Relationship
One of the simplest reframes Matias offered was also the most human:
Customers donβt become loyal because they got five dollars off.
They become loyal because they feel like theyβre part of something.
Matias said it simply:
βJust their participation makes them feel closer to the brand.β
Thatβs the shift.
Points may still be part of the equation β but the deeper loyalty is being built through connection.
π«‘ Community-Led Loyalty: A New Advantage For Independent Brands
This is where the conversation started to click for me as a host.
For years, loyalty at scale felt like something reserved for giants:
Starbucks-level systems.
Sephora-level perks.
Massive data teams.
But Matias is building ethos around a different idea:
That independent retailers β the Shopify merchants, the small brands, the local operators β should be able to create loyalty ecosystems just as compelling.
Not by copying enterprise rewards programsβ¦
but by building community.
Matias outlined the arc:
voting in polls
sharing feedback through surveys
uploading authentic content
earning early access
staying engaged between purchases
Itβs loyalty as participation β not just transaction.
And for independent retailers, especially in Canada, that matters.
Because community is something smaller brands can do better than anyone.
They can be closer.
More personal.
More real.
For Shopify merchants and independent retailers, this is a playbook worth watching.
π§ Tune In to the Full Episode
Canada Now | Episode 15: Loyalty Beyond Points: Building Community-Led Brands
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π Loyalty Is Acquisition, Not Just Retention
One of the most surprising insights from Matias was this:
A truly engaging loyalty program doesnβt just reward existing customers.
It attracts new ones.
He said it βbreaks peopleβs brainsβ when they realize it.
An engaging loyalty program can become a channel for new customer acquisition.
Thatβs a big deal.
Because most businesses still think loyalty is something you build after you have customers.
Matias lays out the opposite:
Community can pull people in before they ever buy.
Thatβs not just retention. Thatβs modern brand-building.
π Tools Matter More Than Education
Another moment I loved was when Matias pushed back on the idea that this is simply about business owners βcatching up.β
He doesnβt think the gap is awareness.
He thinks the gap is tooling.
Shopify didnβt succeed because it taught people e-commerce.
It succeeded because it made e-commerce accessible.
Matias believes loyalty is in the same phase.
Thatβs a founderβs insight.
And itβs exactly the kind of infrastructure shift that unlocks the next wave of independent business growth.
What was missing wasnβt educationβ¦ it was the tools.
π¨π¦ The Canadian Founder Lens: Building in Hard Mode
The conversation wasnβt only about loyalty.
It was also about what it feels like to build from Canada right now.
Matias spoke with real emotion about being proud to build here β but also honest about the friction:
βBy choosing to stay hereβ¦ youβre choosing to play the game in a harder mode.β
But βhard modeβ isnβt about ambition.
Itβs about momentum.
Matias has watched Canadian founders leave for the U.S. β and seen resources feel harder to access.
And yet β what stayed with me most wasnβt frustration.
It was the deeper reason he chooses to build here:
βEntrepreneurship is kind of synonymous with freedomβ¦ and if Iβm truly free β Iβm living here.β
But he also offered something important:
Canadaβs path forward is likely not found by copying Silicon Valley.
Itβs building the way Canadian founders often do best:
Sustainably. Thoughtfully. With real customers. Real customer feedback loops. Real revenue. Real staying power.
Hard mode, yes.
But maybe also⦠the model that lasts.
Matias also believes tides change quickly when Canadian entrepreneurs shine:
βIt doesnβt take long for that to swing backβ¦ we donβt need a ton of examples.β
Entrepreneurship is kind of synonymous with freedomβ¦ and if Iβm truly free β Iβm living here. π¨π¦
π A Timely Signal: Y Combinator and Canada
Matias pointed to one recent example that sparked a lot of discussion:
Y Combinator β one of the most influential startup accelerators in the world β had suggested it would exclude Canadian-domiciled startups.
βEven just recentlyβ¦ Y Combinator is excluding Canada.β
He didnβt frame it as drama.
He framed it as signal.
What happens when resources get turned off?
When builders feel like they have to leave?
βI donβt like to see resources get turned off for Canadians.β
π Just days after this conversation, Y Combinator reversed course and announced they will once again invest in Canadian startups β a meaningful reminder of how fluid (and important) these ecosystem decisions are.
π (More info/links: YC announcement / BetaKit / Business Insider)
π Final Thoughts
This episode was a conversation about loyalty. But it was also a conversation about leverage.
Because similar themes apply beyond ecommerce:
participation beats transaction
community beats commoditization
tools unlock new behaviour
and Canadian founders are still building β even uphill
For independent retailers, especially here at home, the takeaway is simple:
You donβt need to be Sephora to build loyalty.
You need to build connection.
And the best part?
The tools to do it are no longer reserved for the giants.
π§ You can listen to or watch the full conversation with Matias Marquez on the latest episode of Canada Now (ep. 15).
π€ About the Guest
Matias Marquez is a Canadian tech founder and the CEO of ethos, a modern loyalty and membership platform helping Shopify brands rethink loyalty as something far more human than points and perks. Previously, Matias founded Buyatab β a global leader in digital gift cards β which was acquired in 2019. A BIV Forty Under 40 honouree, he brings a second-time founder lens to building enduring, community-led brands, and has supported early-stage companies as a board member, advisor, and investor.
Learn more:
Matias Marquez on LinkedIn | ethos Company Website

π₯ Episode Chapters
(Jump straight to the parts you care about.)
β° Timestamps
00:00 Loyalty programs can attract new customers β not just existing ones
00:30 Welcome to Canada Now π (Intro)
00:42 Meet Matias Marquez β founder of ethos + Buyatab exit story
02:09 Founder journey: building Buyatab from a university problem
04:20 Selling Buyatab + entering his βsecond actβ as a founder
05:13 What is ethos? Democratizing Sephora-level loyalty for smaller brands
06:43 Why independent retailers can build world-class loyalty now
08:59 ethos product evolution: engagement-first loyalty (polls, surveys, UGC)
10:18 Loyalty isnβt about discounts β itβs about brand connection
11:09 βParticipation makes them feel closer to the brandβ (key insight)
12:44 Loyalty as a customer engagement operating system
16:15 The ROI case: loyalty members spend ~30% more
18:00 Why authentic customer content converts better than polished ads
19:46 How ethos builds product features directly from merchant collaboration
21:00 Access perks: events, early product drops, exclusive rewards
22:25 Black Friday early access β doubling sales
23:28 The big mindset shift: loyalty as customer acquisition
25:13 Omnichannel loyalty: connecting online + in-store seamlessly
26:55 Why loyalty matters even more for mom-and-pop retailers
28:13 Loyalty programs as a business asset (even more valuable than the store)
30:13 Loyalty + succession: increasing SME value before exit
34:52 The rise of the βcommunity managerβ role
36:33 How brands onboard with ethos (self-serve vs done-for-you)
38:39 Building in Canada right now: headwinds + founder patriotism
46:31 Scaling sustainably: the Canadian approach vs βgrowth at all costsβ
52:08 Matiasβs advice for young entrepreneurs
53:06 Where to find ethos + closing thoughts
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