Loyalty isn’t going anywhere β€” but it is being rewritten.

Not because points don’t work. They do.
But there’s room for so much more.

ethos founder and CEO Matias Marquez was clear in our recent Canada Now podcast conversation: the ROI is real β€” loyalty members often spend at least 30% more on average, return more often, and become more valuable customers over time.

The most disciplined consumer brands in the world track this obsessively β€” Starbucks, Sephora, and others regularly cite loyalty metrics as core business drivers.

The shift happening now isn’t about whether loyalty works.
It’s about what it can be.

In 2026, loyalty isn’t just a marketing program.

It’s infrastructure.
It’s community.
It’s participation.

And increasingly, it’s a growth engine.

Oh β€” and it’s not just for the big guys anymore.

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What we’re building is about democratizing loyalty… helping small and independent shops create programs that rival legacy brands.

Matias Marquez

🀝 Loyalty Isn’t a Tactic β€” It’s a Relationship

One of the simplest reframes Matias offered was also the most human:

Customers don’t become loyal because they got five dollars off.
They become loyal because they feel like they’re part of something.

Matias said it simply:

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β€œJust their participation makes them feel closer to the brand.”

That’s the shift.

Points may still be part of the equation β€” but the deeper loyalty is being built through connection.

🫑 Community-Led Loyalty: A New Advantage For Independent Brands

This is where the conversation started to click for me as a host.

For years, loyalty at scale felt like something reserved for giants:

Starbucks-level systems.
Sephora-level perks.
Massive data teams.

But Matias is building ethos around a different idea:

That independent retailers β€” the Shopify merchants, the small brands, the local operators β€” should be able to create loyalty ecosystems just as compelling.

Not by copying enterprise rewards programs…
but by building community.

Matias outlined the arc:

  • voting in polls

  • sharing feedback through surveys

  • uploading authentic content

  • earning early access

  • staying engaged between purchases

It’s loyalty as participation β€” not just transaction.

And for independent retailers, especially in Canada, that matters.

Because community is something smaller brands can do better than anyone.

They can be closer.
More personal.
More real.

For Shopify merchants and independent retailers, this is a playbook worth watching.

🎧 Tune In to the Full Episode

Canada Now | Episode 15: Loyalty Beyond Points: Building Community-Led Brands

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πŸ†• Loyalty Is Acquisition, Not Just Retention

One of the most surprising insights from Matias was this:

A truly engaging loyalty program doesn’t just reward existing customers.
It attracts new ones.

He said it β€œbreaks people’s brains” when they realize it.

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An engaging loyalty program can become a channel for new customer acquisition.

Matias Marquez

That’s a big deal.

Because most businesses still think loyalty is something you build after you have customers.

Matias lays out the opposite:
Community can pull people in before they ever buy.

That’s not just retention. That’s modern brand-building.

πŸ›  Tools Matter More Than Education

Another moment I loved was when Matias pushed back on the idea that this is simply about business owners β€œcatching up.”

He doesn’t think the gap is awareness.
He thinks the gap is tooling.

Shopify didn’t succeed because it taught people e-commerce.
It succeeded because it made e-commerce accessible.

Matias believes loyalty is in the same phase.

That’s a founder’s insight.

And it’s exactly the kind of infrastructure shift that unlocks the next wave of independent business growth.

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What was missing wasn’t education… it was the tools.

Matias Marquez

πŸ‡¨πŸ‡¦ The Canadian Founder Lens: Building in Hard Mode

The conversation wasn’t only about loyalty.

It was also about what it feels like to build from Canada right now.

Matias spoke with real emotion about being proud to build here β€” but also honest about the friction:

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β€œBy choosing to stay here… you’re choosing to play the game in a harder mode.”

But β€œhard mode” isn’t about ambition.
It’s about momentum.

Matias has watched Canadian founders leave for the U.S. β€” and seen resources feel harder to access.

And yet β€” what stayed with me most wasn’t frustration.
It was the deeper reason he chooses to build here:

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β€œEntrepreneurship is kind of synonymous with freedom… and if I’m truly free β€” I’m living here.”

But he also offered something important:
Canada’s path forward is likely not found by copying Silicon Valley.

It’s building the way Canadian founders often do best:

Sustainably. Thoughtfully. With real customers. Real customer feedback loops. Real revenue. Real staying power.

Hard mode, yes.
But maybe also… the model that lasts.

Matias also believes tides change quickly when Canadian entrepreneurs shine:

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β€œIt doesn’t take long for that to swing back… we don’t need a ton of examples.”

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Entrepreneurship is kind of synonymous with freedom… and if I’m truly free β€” I’m living here. πŸ‡¨πŸ‡¦

Matias Marquez

🌐 A Timely Signal: Y Combinator and Canada

Matias pointed to one recent example that sparked a lot of discussion:

Y Combinator β€” one of the most influential startup accelerators in the world β€” had suggested it would exclude Canadian-domiciled startups.

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β€œEven just recently… Y Combinator is excluding Canada.”

He didn’t frame it as drama.
He framed it as signal.

What happens when resources get turned off?
When builders feel like they have to leave?

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β€œI don’t like to see resources get turned off for Canadians.”

πŸ”” Just days after this conversation, Y Combinator reversed course and announced they will once again invest in Canadian startups β€” a meaningful reminder of how fluid (and important) these ecosystem decisions are.

πŸ”Ž (More info/links: YC announcement / BetaKit / Business Insider)

🍁 Final Thoughts

This episode was a conversation about loyalty. But it was also a conversation about leverage.

Because similar themes apply beyond ecommerce:

  • participation beats transaction

  • community beats commoditization

  • tools unlock new behaviour

  • and Canadian founders are still building β€” even uphill

For independent retailers, especially here at home, the takeaway is simple:

You don’t need to be Sephora to build loyalty.
You need to build connection.

And the best part?
The tools to do it are no longer reserved for the giants.

🎧 You can listen to or watch the full conversation with Matias Marquez on the latest episode of Canada Now (ep. 15).

πŸ‘€ About the Guest

Matias Marquez is a Canadian tech founder and the CEO of ethos, a modern loyalty and membership platform helping Shopify brands rethink loyalty as something far more human than points and perks. Previously, Matias founded Buyatab β€” a global leader in digital gift cards β€” which was acquired in 2019. A BIV Forty Under 40 honouree, he brings a second-time founder lens to building enduring, community-led brands, and has supported early-stage companies as a board member, advisor, and investor.

Learn more:
Matias Marquez on LinkedIn | ethos Company Website

πŸŽ₯ Episode Chapters

(Jump straight to the parts you care about.)

⏰ Timestamps

00:00 Loyalty programs can attract new customers β€” not just existing ones
00:30 Welcome to Canada Now 🍁 (Intro)
00:42 Meet Matias Marquez β€” founder of ethos + Buyatab exit story
02:09 Founder journey: building Buyatab from a university problem
04:20 Selling Buyatab + entering his β€œsecond act” as a founder
05:13 What is ethos? Democratizing Sephora-level loyalty for smaller brands
06:43 Why independent retailers can build world-class loyalty now
08:59 ethos product evolution: engagement-first loyalty (polls, surveys, UGC)
10:18 Loyalty isn’t about discounts β€” it’s about brand connection
11:09 β€œParticipation makes them feel closer to the brand” (key insight)
12:44 Loyalty as a customer engagement operating system
16:15 The ROI case: loyalty members spend ~30% more
18:00 Why authentic customer content converts better than polished ads
19:46 How ethos builds product features directly from merchant collaboration
21:00 Access perks: events, early product drops, exclusive rewards
22:25 Black Friday early access β†’ doubling sales
23:28 The big mindset shift: loyalty as customer acquisition
25:13 Omnichannel loyalty: connecting online + in-store seamlessly
26:55 Why loyalty matters even more for mom-and-pop retailers
28:13 Loyalty programs as a business asset (even more valuable than the store)
30:13 Loyalty + succession: increasing SME value before exit
34:52 The rise of the β€œcommunity manager” role
36:33 How brands onboard with ethos (self-serve vs done-for-you)
38:39 Building in Canada right now: headwinds + founder patriotism
46:31 Scaling sustainably: the Canadian approach vs β€œgrowth at all costs”
52:08 Matias’s advice for young entrepreneurs
53:06 Where to find ethos + closing thoughts

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β€” Ashley Smith (@ashleysmithnow)

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